Any true pointing lab that's worth a dam*, will cost you as much or more than any of the versatile breeds....usually $850 or more. How far your pointer ranges is dictated by your training practices and the time spent with it. I've hunted under a GSP and a Viszla that were close workers when I grouse hunted near Sayner last month. It's also a necessity to have a break gun when training with NAVHDA. My Franchi is an O/U 12 gauge in 28" and weighs a hair over 6 lbs. It was an adjustment getting used to it, but enough time at the trap range solves alot of things.